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The John Prices of Mathon, Worcestershire
Based on the English Census of 1841, 1851, 1861, and 1871 (I love
looking at census data. It's so democratic. Everyone gets counted, no
matter how poor you are. A census turns the masses into individuals.)
are my direct ancestors.
b 1794. Wheelwright
There were two Price families in the Civil Parish of Mathon,
in the county of Worcestershire. The brothers John and George (see
below) were both wheelwrights* — possibly working out of the same
shop by 1861.
in Suckley Worcestershire, dead before 1861 census
in Suckley, Worcestershire
Out of the house in 1841 and 1851 and
working as an agricultural labourer;
living separately from his father in later censuses. Because of age,
assumed to be John's son, rather than George's. 1881: laborer
... ... Emma (b. 1849) 1881:
still living with her parents, unmarried
1841, living independently in St. Peter, Worcestershire, working as an agricultural laborer. 1851:
working as a house servant for a hops merchant in the parish of
Claines, Worcestershire. Living
with her widowed father in 1861 and
she was recorded visiting a friend in London and "living on her
(see James & Ann Price for known details and Jim Price Leaves Home)
b. 1823; agricultural laborer. [Not
at home in 1841.
already married and living in Derbyshire]
(see Nashes of Sudbury)
... ... George
... ... William James
(b 1856; carpenter). Married to
b. abt 1826
living at home.
Out of the house by 1851
1831. Master carpenter.
... ... Ada (b 1871)
b 1836. Carpenter.
... ... Florence
John's Brother George
George (b 1800. Wheelwright*)
and Elizabeth (b 1808; Barham, Herefordshire).
George's family is not found in Mathon, Worcestershire in the 1841 census.
... Mary Ann (b 1828; apparently
... James (b 1831; laborer) Married
... ... Lanvina (b 1856)
... ... Eliza
Jane (b 1859)
... ... Emila (b 1862)
... ... Fanny (b 1865)
George (b 1834. Agricultural
laborer). Married to Ann.
... ... Annie (b 1857)
... ... Ellen (b 1859)
... ... Jane (b 1864)
... ... Mary Ann (b 1867)
... ... George (b 1870)
... Thomas (b 1936; agricultural
laborer) Married to Melina
... ... Melina (b 1860)
... ... Eliza (b 1867)
... ... Ruth (b 1869)
... ... Thomas (b 1970)
Last night I came up with a new way of researching family history.
I was tired but not ready to sleep. Poking away at my English history
seemed like a mindless activity but I'd already laid out everything I knew
about the Prices and Newhams.
I'm not 100% sure that John Price is my great-great-great grandfather.
But I'm reasonably sure his son (my great-great grandfather) James
was from the parish of Mathon in Worcestershire. Mid-nineteenth century,
there were only about a thousand people living in Mathon. My hypothesis
is that all the Prices would be related and that there couldn't be
too many of them.
I went to the 1861 census of England. I did an EXACT name search on
the Last Name = Price, County = Worcestershire, District = Mathon.
16 Prices came up, in 5 family groups (identified by Relationship
The original census sheets for each family gave me their configuration
and helped me lay out the generations.
I tried to repeat this for the 1871 census. They threw me a curve
by switching Mathon to Gloucestershire, but I wound up being able
to identify several more children born in the 10 years since 1861.
Unfortunately in 1861, my ancestor James Price was already out
of the house and living in Derbyshire. In my earlier research,
I'd assumed George was his father. But I see there are two Heads
of Household who are likely suspects.
Update: Ancestry.Com has
now posted the 1841 and 1851 census
data, so I expected to get a definitive answer about
James' father. The results are still ambiguous, since
James was apparently already out on his own by 1841.
But finding a younger James in George's family strengthens
the theory that my great-gret grandfather was the son
of John Price.